I just posted a reply to Tom who took me to task about the way I dismissed Deckers as being 'not a warren buffett company'. He correctly pointed out that neither is Buffalo Wild Wings or CMG. Point taken. I should have known better so let's get rational about DECK.
The problem is the Moat. They don't create stuff like Nike. They buy something they think is hot, like Teva and Ugg. In a sense, buying a piece of DECK is like buying into a venture fund that focuses on the shoe business and is very involved in the day to day operations. That's not entirely fair either but its not a bad analogy for what's going on over there. Their moat, like any good VC firm, is in the brains of the people who run it.
By VC standards, DECK is a pretty good firm. It has most of its long term numbers in the 30% range and ROE in the mid 20's. Most VCs would be very happy with those numbers. So can we assume they can keep this up for another 20 years? Would size matter?
They sell $1 billion of shoes and are growing sales at 20%. Nike sells 20B growing at 5%. Can DECK double 3 times in ten years and still have room to continue that level growth? It would have revenues of $8 billion in 2021 and have to expect $16B in 2024, $32 B by 2028. Nike meanwhile would have grown to $40B. So that's one problem: If we project Deckers to grow at 20% or so it has to be able to become Nike. Can it do that? The answer to that question is an evaluation of the business capability of the management team. Deck can't do it with what it has right now. It has to develop lines and be successful marketing them, so much so that it dominates everything in the market that Nike doesn't dominate.
Deck's moat is based on the people who run it being really smart. That's always a problem for a Rule One investor because its like investing in high tech ... you just never know what's coming. I want a business that has such a large moat that even a stupid management team can't destroy the business. (See McDonald's in early 2000's and BP last year for examples of big moat businesses that couldn't be destroyed by bad management.)
So what's the proper valuation of a venture fund?
The fund's require at least a shot at a 40% compounded ROI on every investment in order to hope to hit a 25% plus overall ROI for the fund given that some things are just not going to work out. Therefore, to account for the extra risk, I'd need to see 25% a year, not 15%. Change the MARR to 25% and it puts the Sticker at $38. Mr. Market wants $85.
But I don't like to price in risk. Thats what you do when you speculate, you try to get a really low price to 'account' for the really high risk. That's what you do on a roulette table. That is NOT Rule One investing. As a Rule One investor, I want a high rate of return with a great deal of certainty. Deckers doesn't look like that to me and if it did, it still wouldn't be priced right.
Now go play.
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